February 27, 2012

  • Friendships, Cliques, & FFE

    Started this post on Saturday. Finished it late Sunday night. I don’t know if it makes sense, but I’ve been missing my blog and this is the muddle of my brain right now…..

    A snowy Saturday morning after a winter of very little snow. A day delightfully unplanned with no major schedule. I can’t think of much that is more delicious. Except….

    I can’t get my mind off of the Flip Flop Event in Ohio this weekend. I miss the bloggers who are there. I miss them on Facebook and Xanga. I wonder what they are doing right now. Most of you in my xanga circle know what I mean by the Flip Flop Event–the big FFE. To those who don’t: It’s a blogger meet-up. I think they had a similar get-together the summer of 2010. A unique group because most of the gals are Mennonite or ex-Mennonite. *Excuse the labels, ladies.* (I don’t know whether to call them girls or gals or ladies or women or what. Nothing sounds right. Gals is too western, girls too familiar, ladies too elegant, women too woman-ish. I don’t like my hyphenated words up there either.)

    Back in my first days of blogging, I remember this elite group of ladies who were SUCH pals. I felt myself hovering on the edge of things, enjoying them and their writing and wanting to learn to know them, but afraid of looking too eager to join a clique or something. I know. I overthink badly. And that’s not really how it works anyway.

    Oh me. I thought the days of cliques kind of ended after I quit going to Bible school. I’ve always been clique-wary. (excuse the hyphens) I think it had something to do with having the mom I did and also with coming from a very small and isolated church and school. My mom always looked out for the underdog and she pounded that into us. (I love her for it.) At our church, if you were only friends with your age group or the people who thought like you did, your group of friends narrowed to next to nothing. So I kind of grew up with this wariness of all close groups of friendships, exclusive or not. Not that I didn’t have close friends, but in my mind I was always bending over backwards to make sure I wasn’t part of any cliques. I remember having a fun group of girlfriends at Maranatha Bible School and getting together to go out for dinner several times. My best friends would get a little disgusted with me because I worried about this person and that person that we should invite and just had a general guiltiness because I feared being exclusive.

    To this day I automatically gravitate to the people standing alone in the corners. I do not say this to sound righteous. It’s just a part of my nature that will probably never leave me. But sometimes the corner people want to be there. Sometimes you leave a good conversation to look out for the “lonely”, only to realize that they’re just fine, thank you very much. Sometimes you may sacrifice one friendship of depth for 5 shallow friendships. And the balance can be very, very delicate and hard to find. Maybe especially when you are a pastor’s wife or someone in leadership and you try hard to maintain unprejudiced relationships and stay away from anything exclusive or friendships where you might be tempted to gossip about someone else. And another thing: You can go crazy in a large crowd trying to talk to all the corner people. It’s just impossible.

    But getting back to FFE. I don’t know how they worked their invitations to this event. I think maybe the core group of ladies each invited a friend and then that friend invited someone else until it was the size of a group they could handle. Or whatever. I may be off track here. I had a last minute invite and felt a little like it was an afterthought. And probably the inviter didn’t really expect or hope that I’d come. (yes. That’s how I reason.  Never think too highly of yourself, you know.  ) But I was honored. And unable to attend. Flights to Columbus Ohio were $950 six weeks before FFE and $2300 at the last minute. Much as I fiercely love Canada and the North, these are the times when it’s the hardest to live so far north and west and so far off the beaten track. My sisters and I are getting together in Virginia this spring and it didn’t seem wise at all to pay for two trips back east in so short a time. I was disappointed and in a way it bothered me more than I thought it might not to be there. But in other ways it was a relief not to be worrying about outfits and fighting nervousness. I’m afraid I would feel really northern and unique in that group of ladies. And unstylish. :)

    But I need to go on to say that this group of girls/gals/ladies/women/bloggers has been so accepting, gracious and kind online. Just because you’re a popular writer and get 30 comments every time you post doesn’t mean that you’re proud or snobbish. Just because you know how to take beautiful pictures or decorate a house perfectly or are witty doesn’t mean you expect everyone else to excel at the things you’re good at. I think in the past I’ve had hang ups and held people at arm’s length because everyone else thought they were great. So I’d make up my little mind that I wasn’t going to like them. And that is pride in one of the worst forms: jealousy, really.

    And you know what else?  In life we do have favorite people.  There are people that we click with.  There are people that we sit up and take notice of when they speak or write or post on facebook.  Maybe we’ve never met them, but they make us feel good or happy or challenged.  Or they make us laugh or think or cry.  And it’s okay to have favorite people.  I could name you about 10 of mine in short order.  But our favoritism needs to be balanced by love and acceptance and growth in loving the un-favorites that rub us raw in spots.

    I would love to have met Cindy the Encourager and the Gentle Rachel and Wise & Funny Jenny K. and Down to Earth Audrey R. and Lovely Amber H. and Comfortable Christy and Smart Farm Wife Andrea this past weekend. I would have loved to reconnect with my old friend Audrey M. and calm and beautiful Kay (my student from looong ago when she was 16 and I was 18) and the Becky I last knew as a little 16 year old Mennonite girl. And the rest of you. I have no doubt (I think :) that you would be nicer in person than you are on the screen

    Random observation:

    (*NAME DROP: To mention casually the names of illustrious or famous people in order to imply that one is on familiar terms with them, intended as a means of self-promotion.* And yes. I’ve been guilty.) 

    I can understand that a group like FFE has to have a starting and stopping point. I want to embrace the world, rush around making sure everyone has a spot, look out for the ones who might have been missed, and in general make a muddle of things. Especially online, there is a point where you have to say: “I have enough friends now.” I could wear myself to a frazzle trying to comment on every post I read or encourage every person on facebook who needs encouragement. And then I realize that I am not indispensable and maybe I need to be quiet for a while.

    The blogging system is an intricate and mysterious one. I remember a friend comparing it to being at the playground and wanting to be friendly, but unsure if the kids who are having fun want you to join them or not. If you are a total newcomer, as I was almost two years ago, you cautiously make a few comments, then sit back and see if the others ask you to join and play or not. Some do. Some don’t. And that’s okay. Maybe sometimes you need to wander off and find someone else who needs a friend and get your own game going. I seldom keep commenting on a blog when there is no reciprocation. I may keep reading it because I like the writer, but friendship is usually a two way thing. Some people are overwhelmed with readers and can’t follow you just because you follow them. ( And as I write this, I realize how thankful I am that Jesus always has time for a new follower.)

    On the subject of cliques and things: I have found it so interesting and sad that some of the people in my life that I once looked at as having it all together and always dressing right and knowing how to play volleyball and knowing how to get in with the right crowd are actually needy adults who don’t necessarily have a niche where they feel comfortable. They may be aching for friendships but don’t know how to be a friend. Maybe they never learned to reach out to all kinds of people and now they’re left high and dry.  I don’t know.

    One really cool thing about the past and present is this: Now that we have children and greying hair and aren’t quite as concerned about the latest style, we’re so much more on the same level with those people we once thought were above us. Those volleyball experts are quite nice in their own homes with their children around to keep them humble. And then they do things like get ordained as ministers and you have lots in common and maybe the ladies are still doing their hair the way they did when they were 17 and they just don’t seem intimidating like they did back then.  I think the truth is this:  They probably weren’t as scary as I deemed them in the first place. 

    No matter where you go or where you read or what job you do, there are people who need friendship. And whether you connect because you both adore Ann Voskamp or both read Karen Kingsbury or because you both can’t stand KK and find AV overwhelming or because you love vintage stuff or you can’t decorate worth a hoot, friendships are good. And they’re still good if one of you loves KK and one of you can’t bear her. And people never want to be a “project”. And close groups are healthy and we all need friends to get us out of that shell of self that makes us nasty to live with. And I should be quiet now because I’m just putting words together and I’m not sure any of this makes sense. Sometimes I just have this urge to say who the real Luci is and what she thinks even if she’s strange.

    I know you FFE ladies/gals are going to have a camaradarie that the rest of us won’t share. There will be inside jokes and warm memories that we know nothing about. You’ve been careful about not talking too much about things publicly, but now I want to hear a little bit about your weekend. I’m nosy like that. :) Pleeee….ase. With a cherry on top. I hope you had a fabulous time and felt loved and accepted and understood and alive.

    This post will be hard to comment on and you don’t need to. FFE gals/women: Don’t tell me you missed me. I know better. You don’t miss someone you’ve never met.

    Edit:  I know how easily I label and categorize and put people on pedestals when really we’re all made of the same stuff.  And while none of us want to be the pathetic person on the outskirts, we all find ourselves there sometimes, needing someone to reach out to us.

    I pray for myself and anyone reading this

    ….that our friendships may be healthy, not self-centered.

    ….that our hearts be free of jealousy and comparison and coveting and all the nasty things that eat away at what could be beautiful relationships.

    …..that we recognize those who need a friend.

    ….for wisdom to know what relationships to pursue and those we need to give up and move beyond.

    …for less judgment, more acceptance, and the freedom to give people the space they need.

    ….for genuine goodwill in seeing the friendships of others grow and strengthen.

    A joy-filled Monday to each of you.

Comments (42)

  • As I was reading this, I was really struck by the thought that I truly do appreciate how honest and candid and transparent you are when you write. Its so easy to identify with what you share. This is a really great, thought provoking post, and lately I’ve thought quite a bit along the same lines.. cliques, friendships, close circles, etc. and wondered where I fit into any of it. I’m often reminded, when I feel left out and never good enough (which is something I have battled continually) that I need to take on the mind of Christ, taking every thought captive… step back and look at things through a Jesus perspective. I have always been a lot like what you describe yourself to be, looking for the underdog and spurning the close circle of friends in favor for the ones who don’t seem to fit in anywhere.. maybe that’s because I don’t fit in anywhere, either… and I feel more at home with the person in the corner. Hmm. Well, enough of this self examination.. it is way past bedtime here.. blessings to you, Luci. Thanks for sharing your heart. Sorry if this comment is jumbled and seems….. well…. jumbled….. chalk it up to me staying up way too late. :)

  • Wow, it is flat-out amazing how you put things into words.  The tension of friendships vs. being wary of cliques…of looking out for the person in the corner…of the mixed emotions and feeling left out when everyone but you is at the party…and you didn’t mention this but I know you’d understand: the agony of knowing who to invite to your child’s party, and where do you stop?
    I don’t know much about FFE but did you ever think about organizing a similar event out west??
    Of course if you and I met halfway it would probably be a long day’s drive for each of us, but that would beat flying back east for $950/2300.
    Think about it…  Maybe Twila would like to host us.
    Hugs to you in your corner of the world that is very far away from everywhere else.

  • I’m with the others^^^: I love how honest and transparent you are. I still have that fear alot that I battle: ‘Who’s going to read this?’ I can’t say *this* and if I say *this* than *this*…  Yeah, I have issues with that. :)  

    And I’m usually the one standing in the corner, unless there’s a good friend there in the crowd.  I love people like you who seek out people like me and I want to be that for others!

    Happy Monday to you!

  • Well, I enjoyed reading your heartfelt words, and I’ve never even heard of FFE!  Blessings on your day ~

  • Luci!
    First off, I totally thought of you over the weekend. I would have tackled you with a bear hug at the door.  Of course I can relate to watching people in the corners and feeling terrible if it looks like they’re not having fun.  I felt so much angst growing up trying hard to include everybody particularly the outcasts. It seems our personalities are alike in so many ways.
      I actually felt quite guilty going to FFE, like maybe it was wrong to pursue friendships with people I’ve never met, when really my real-life friendships could use some maintenance and help. And then to top it off, two important people (my husband and another long-time friend) told me they thought it was very out of character for me to go to something like that.  But I honestly wanted to go, so I did.
    One of the bottome lines, even within FFE you are not going to connect with everybody that is there. There are so many different women there in so many differant stages of their walk, its impossible to be close with everyone.  So I think I understand now, that from the outside it looks like a close-knit group, on the inside their our dozens of ladies who are connecting in differant ways to differant people.
    For me, I felt awkward some of the time, I was having a blast some of the time, I was very shallow some of the time, and in deep stuff some of the time.  So in the end I feel very spent and tired, but weirdly refreshed.
    And this is about you in particular sometimes I’ve felt a teensy bit jealous for how relatively short of a time you’ve blogged, and yet risen to the top so fast. It’s all good, I want to meet you, FFE or not.

  • @writersblock02 - if there was a like button, i would be hitting it for this comment.

  • Luci…i sooo like this post. but, time and tired are not allowing me to comment past that at this moment.

  • I didn’t know you were invited, so I didn’t technically miss you, but it would’ve been comforting to have you there. Although I might have used you as a crutch, and that’s not a good reason to want someone around. I was the “plainest” person there, and I was surprised how vulnerable it made me feel. I can’t explain in a comment how the weekend was. There were several times that I just wanted to flee, but I’m glad I stuck it out. There is SO much for me to process. I feel like I have grown, though

  • This was  a lovely post.  The whole  girl friend subject has been BIG in my life and mind lately.  And your thoughts just articulated some of the floaties going around my head.  You said: “We all need friends to get us out of the shell of our selfish self”   True.    Friendships are so rewarding…..just had an amazing weekend seeing old friends in MN….And friendships can be so harsh…….when in real life it seems it’s rebuffed in a different corner.  And btw, your white haired mom and my white haired mom must have the same heart for people….my mother also pushed us to be friends to everyone.  And she lived it out and showed me how.  Good moms, those two!  :) 

  • I read this earlier, and tried to leave a comment but my computer froze up!
    It takes courage to be open and honest, I admire you for writing what you did.
    I liked what you had to say.

  • @TheQuiveringPencil - Your jumble matched mine quite well.  :)   I like learning to know the real you.  But the funny thing is, how do you really know someone until you meet them?  I like what you had to say on the Jesus perspective.  How easily we label people as higher or lower than we are and base our attempts at frienship on that instead of just accepting them for who they are and where their journey is taking them.  I have lots to learn!

    @dorcassmucker - The child’s party issue is probably much bigger in a large community like yours.  But yes.  I know the angst.  And I’ve thought of a western counterpart to FFE. But of course I would suffer severe pains over how to organize the whole thing.  How about if you head it up?  You never seem to be very busy.  (ha :)    But there are so many more bloggers in the east…. ;)     I do need to tell you that one of the best parts of joining the online world has been meeting you. 

    @Carsonsmom2 - Aren’t we all just so much the same and yet so different?  And sometimes we label aloof as snobby when it’s really just shy.  I’m so glad you’re a part of my xanga circle.  It took us a while, but I think we’ll get along just fine.  :)

    @writersblock02 - I really love that little peek into your experience at FFE.  “Weirdly refreshed” sounds just dandy.  :)   I’m laughing over your “risen to the top” in reference to my blogging.  I have never seen myself in that light.  But thanks.  Or whatever I should be saying here, my true-hearted friend.

    @richlyblest - I thought of you and how we plain girls could have kept each other company.:)   But I’m so glad to hear you say that you’re glad you went.  I can see that it would be a stretching, growing thing and I applaud your bravery.  Maybe someday you can write more about it.

    @amyjane30 - You know what’s so crazy, Amy?  The girls in your family always intimidated me because you were cute and (I thought) aloof and could sing and play the piano, right??  I know I’ve laughed over some of these issues with Shyla and found out that she was intimidated by me.  It’s so lovely to grow up a little bit and get past some of those issues, though I still grapple with them more than I wish I did.  I’m so glad to get to know you as a slightly more mature adult.  :)

    @foreveranoatneygirl_n2Hisown - Wishing you peace and rest and time to process the bigness of your weekend.  :)

    @fwren -@Elizabethmarie_1 -  Thank you. :)

  • I love this Luci. It has so many of my thoughts in it … How did you do that?! Considering we do live out in the northwest, and off the beaten path… cracked me up! And for some reason that whole “plain” issue … I never even thought of you being “plain”… nor fancy -er wordly, or whatever you want to call it. I guess fashion is just not part of my blogging world…

  • @quiet_hearts - if you plan a “western” FFE thing, let me know. I’d love to meet you. I think I’m far enough west to qualify.. :)

  • I really enjoyed this post. Friendships with other women has always been harder for me, than friendships with men. I don’t have any sisters and all my girl cousins and I didn’t grow up within the same town. So it was me and my brother and his big group of friends. I’ve always been more comfortable around guys/men/boys. A couple of my xanga friends went to FFE and part of me felt sad because I wasn’t invited, but the bigger part of me was more relieved. I am looking forward to what everyone has to say about the weekend, and I am looking forward to the many pictures I’m sure they all took. I enjoy the friendships of other women – but “girl-friendships” are still difficult for me to feel comfortable in.

  • I enjoyed this post about friendships.
    The older I get, the more I realize how much I have to learn about being a friend. I am not one of those that it comes naturally to, that reaching out to people.
    It’s much easier for me getting to know people one on one, than in a large group setting, those tend to scare me. ;)

    And then, too, now that I’m married and have a family, I struggle to know where the balance is.
    How much time do I spend pursuing friendships before it takes away from my family?

  • You did it again. Put a muddled mess of thoughts into beautiful words. I am amazed as I get older how I have become less outgoing. I’m still a long way from shy but I am not the vivacious girl of my youth. Which isn’t a bad thing.;)

    FFE sounds very special…but I think it could be overwhelming too.

    I just don’t want to get to the place that I trade online friends for real-life ones. Much as i love and enjoy many of you, there are some friendships right around me that need some catching up and some love and time invested in them.

    I found another thing to admire about you-looking out for the underdog. My Dad drilled friendliness in us, and I’ve never been sorry. However, I can’t say I always stayed out of cliques in my growing up years. Good read, Luci! Thanks for being real.

  • ladies and relationships can be dicey. add online to the mix and it complicates it times a thousand.

    you were honest in your post, and i am going to be honest in my comment. it hurts me to know ffe is viewed as some elite clique. even if you try to graciously discount this assumption, it comes through loud and clear. this is so not the spirit when we are together; and we really try not to convey that idea online either. i helped plan it both times and am completely tired of the accusations that go along with having to make decisions about how many and who will be invited.

  • Luci, I hope someday I can meet you. You can express in writing so well what I feel in my heart but cannot put into words so elequently. Blessings to you, my friend!

  • Of all things…..calling us aloof!  :)  That to me is hilarious!  We were the most harmless things in WI, I promise.  And no we don’t all play piano and sing….at least I don’t.    and Cute?  I bet you can hear me laughing all the way from here!    Wouldn’t it be interesting to get the Peachy Sisters and the Skrivseth Sisters together?    And I would even enjoy the singing and piano playing…… :)  

  • @mlt10202002 - Lisa!  ouch.  But thanks so much for being honest.  When I was writing this post I kept asking myself why I was even putting clique and FFE in the same post.  Because what I meant to say here was that I think you ladies pull it off well without being clique-ish.  And sometimes our perception of a clique is SO far out because of our own insecurities.  I was actually thinking today about the people who plan FFE and how it must be a lot like planning our big family reunion.  Someone has to be in charge and say what goes and decide the schedule.  And I get so weary of the whiners when the people who are brave enough to be in charge don’t do things quite like we wish they would.  It can be too expensive or the schedule can be too full or whatever. Planning events is never easy and you get to take the flak afterwards if things aren’t just so.  And this blogger event is an even more delicate balance, I’m sure.  I’m so sorry if I came across as putting you in an elite group.  I know you aren’t because of who all you invited.  :) And there is no way that you can open up to the the whole blogging world if it’s going to be any kind of a close time of learning to know people better.  I remember reading that once a Bible study group gets bigger than 10 people you need to start a new one because people aren’t going to be as open anymore. I think why I was thinking along the lines of cliques and friendships was because my mind kept going to you ladies and wishing I could be there, and yet not really sure if and  where I’d fit if I was.  I also realize that in telling the world that I had an invite to FFE I may be saying in essence that I’m a notch above or something.  AGH.  But what you’re saying is that that is so not the spirit with you guys.  And I believe you.  My own insecurities came across as judgmental of you and I’m so very sorry.  I wish I could say the same to Becky and Audrey and anyone else who may have taken this post that way.  But since I excel at over-explaining myself and muddling things up even more, I’d better just be quiet.  Again, thanks for your honesty.

  • @The_Carpers - Don’t forget that I live 14 hours more off the beaten track than you do, Miss Sarah.  And the fact that “plain and fancy” don’t factor into your blogging world is great.  You can teach me how to notice those things less.

    @fourkidsonemom - I think finding our place in relationships is just one of life’s trickiest balances.  :)

    @the_schlabachs - I know.  Sometimes I think our society places too much emphasis on these girl friendships and then when we feel the ache of not having them as we wish we would, it looms larger than it should for healthy family life.  I know I need women in my life.  I pray that I can keep working on a good balance.  One on one is always good.  I like crowds of people more than some, but nothing beats a good conversation with just one friend.

    @lwstutz - I didn’t necessarily stay out of cliques in my youth either.  And probably I don’t always now.  Couldn’t agree more on real life friends and how much they need to come  first. 

    @song_of_praise - I’d like to meet you too.  Thanks for the kindness.

    @amyjane30 - ok.  Now I feel like stuttering because I really can’t explain how I viewed you girls growing up.  Let’s just say that perception can be so badly skewed.  When you’re 17 and when you’re 37.  Getting together with you girls sounds like a good idea.  I think we’re all opinionated, too, so it could be interesting.  :)

  • Thanks for a great post!  You put so many of the thoughts that whirl around in my head, into words.  Very well done.

  • you said A LOT. and i totally get what you wrote. and if i would have never been invited or never been able to make it, then FFE would look like mainstream celebrity material to me. and i would wonder about how they got to be so popular.

    BUT.one thing that has become so glaringly true to me is that ladies and gals are unique. and they all wander around lost sometimes
    and there is no such thing as someone having it all together.But there is such a thing as one person being extremely gifted in fashion. another one being crazy gifted in listening. another one is the essence of FUNNY. someone else has the gift of drawing you out. and yet someone else is beyond wise.and i have learned to just learn from ladies and LOVE that they have traits i will never possess.
    that is probably what i love the most about this life of friendships and struggles and insecurities……the way you slowly let go of longing to be like someone else that you REALLY REALLY would love to be like. and to just grow up. and love yourself. in all your wreckage.

  • I had a whole message written up to send to you (privately) but then I wrote what you said when you responded to Lisa’s comment and I decided that maybe I was mis-reading what you were trying to say in this post.  So I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, even though it did really come across differently (to me) than you apparently meant it!  Even though I am one of the “founders” of FFE, I do not see it as a clique or a place where we just try to get together with people who we think are just like us or are extra cool or whatever.  There is MUCH diversity in the group and I appreciate that!  I also am trying not to take this post a little personally because I felt like I was so welcoming to you when you joined Xanga and I helped you with questions and said “Yes, you SHOULD comment to that person” and was so happy for you that you built friendships with people through your blogging, etc.  I also sincerely invited you to come to FFE.    I also would completely be happy for you if you were able to start a “western division” of something like FFE.  You will, though, likely find yourself up against the same dilemmas that Becky, Lisa and I dealt with. Who to invite? Where to stop and start?  Space restrictions and many other considerations.  The thing that I think is so cool is that God used us in our flawed-ness and not “getting it all right” to really bring a group of women together who were impacted by the experience!  Thank God!!

    I think that you had a lot of great thoughts in this post…about including people and about being balanced in friendships.  You wrote about things that we all struggle with and deal with.  Thank you for putting the time into doing that!

  • @happyangel78 - Thank you.@lin789 -  Thanks. Best words yet.  You always say it right.

  • @appalolly - Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt.  But maybe I still need to read your message to see how my wonky words made you feel.  :(   I was mostly kidding about the afterthought invitation,  but I can see how what I wrote would be easy to take personally.  You know that I am forever grateful to you for how you encouraged me and got me started and so kindly answered my many silly questions when I joined xanga. And I realize that FFE is a very diverse group of ladies and I think that’s so,so cool.  While I highly doubt that any blogger get-together will be started out here by me, I know who to go to for advice.  Thank you for being honest here even though I now want to delete this whole post. But that feels like a cop out.  May it serve as a reminder to me to choose my words more carefully.  I am so sorry for the sting.  You have always been my to-be-counted-on xanga friend and I love you for it. I am also sincerely happy that your weekend was a good experience.  Please believe it.

  • I am going to comment on this post, even though I don’t know you at all. Thank you for writing it. I’m sorry that parts of it caused hurt feelings, but I’m grateful to you for being honest. It helped me with some of my own current struggles about friendships (and to be frank, about feeling left out of FFE (although I know that’s crazy because I don’t even blog on xanga anymore)). God spoke to me through what you wrote.Thank you for having the courage to be transparent, and for using your skills to write about it.

  • @quiet_hearts - Hey, here’s the thing.  I never want to let something little like this cause a rift between me and someone else.  I knew that if I didn’t comment at all the whole thing would kind of sit there and fester with me, so I wanted to be honest about how the post made me feel.  Thanks for your kind reply and I am fine with letting it go and chalk it up to a misunderstanding.  That kind of stuff happens.  I have enjoyed reconnecting with you online and I am glad that our lives intersect in that way. 

  • @Jabber_wock - Thanks so much for stopping by and for your kindness.  I checked out your blog a little bit.  Love those bright Irish doors and also your little girl’s name.  :)   I guess we probably all have current struggles in friendship to some measure or another.  Blessings.

  • i’m not always very good at following directions. so i WILL tell you that i missed you.
    we’ve never met. but i have it in my head that we will someday. and i thought of you repeatedly this past weekend…and missed you.

  • @down_onthefarm - You are a dear, Cindy.  thanks. 

  • You know what is so crazy?! All weekend, I was thinking of you hit n miss, wishing you’d be there and knowing how much you’d love it!! And I didn’t even know you were invited! So, don’t miss it next time, ok? :) I liked what you wrote up there. I can relate to so much of it. Probably all women can, no matter how they come across. I’ve been noticing how you’ve become a very loved and *ahem* popular part of the blogging world in such a short time, and I’m not one bit surprised and I know why… one of the things that makes you so loved is that you’re so transparent. You are yourself, you are honest, you admit that you hide from JWs :) and I love it!

  • Dear Luci,  never never give up being honest and saying it like it is… I rarely voice those same things because of fear of man…  How unworthy though…  I learn nothing from a person who won’t say what they are going through.  God bless you and keep talking.  It does me good even if I only get to blog or read blogs every month or so.   I like Dorcas Smuckers idea… A western flip-flop blogger thingy…  You arrange it OK?  Shilah

  • @kaylouann - And you are loved because you are kind and unassuming.  Teach me that.  Thanks for stopping here.  I’m ready to bid this crazy post goodbye now.  :(

    @bruceshilah - Love that you stopped by.  Thanks so much for the encouragement.  I don’t know a thing about planning events of any kind.  I think someone else would do it better.  I hope we get together again sometime and actually have some time to talk.  Not like last summer….

  • well. i DID miss you, because i totally thought you were going to be there and i asked someone at one point where you were!!! i was planning on finishing our “talk” about the message you sent me after mrs.b’s comment. ;) because i NEVER wrote you back all that i was going to say. i’m awful that way about answering messages, and phone calls too. so don’t ever call me, k.!! kidding. ;)

    i liked two things about this whole post. first, that you were true to yourself vs. what others might think of you, and had the guts to just put it out there. sometimes i think that’s the number one thing we could do as women to help in relationship w/ one another. to not be afraid to admit our struggles. our insecurities. cause, hello! yep. we’ve all got them. and most, are anchored in this very thing you’re talking about.. the longing to feel a part. accepted.

    second. that right here. right in this comment box, i saw what genuine REAL friendship is all about. for others to share their feelings as well, maybe different from yours, even disagree. to see both sides get stung a bit but then respond in grace and openness and end WELL! to not allow it to cause a rift and separate. but ultimately, bring us all closer together. i do think that GOD has formed this group of community among us as bloggers. no one is more popular or a better writer or decorator or whatever! yes. as the ever wise with words, linda put it. we can all learn from each other. and of course. satan will be trying his darndest to stop ANYTHING that unifies the body of Christ.

    you have a sweet heart of gold, luci. i truly believe that. and i learned from this post. from you! so, thank you.  

  • luci…i am so glad that i once knew you IRL…i completely heard your heart in this post. i agree w/ lis and aug about being weary of the accusations…but, quite honestly, they go in one ear and out the other for me. i know my heart was never to exclude anyone on purpose or to create a group of eliteness. however, i KNOW you did not mean to be accusational.   and then i also kinda want to laugh at how common and ordinary the ffe event is compared to the “big-wig” bloggers that get together! :) so, as always, i love your honesty and the way you are so humbly REAL!! love you. and would have loved to have you there. 

  • @grace_to_be - Thanks so much, Amber.   I really appreciate you coming here to comment.  And those Good Words you said up there ^^^ make me realize again what a great group of ladies you all are.  I probably wouldn’t write this post in this way if I had it to do over again, but I do know that some really good things came from it.  I don’t know how others (especially the ‘leaders’ of ffe) were supposed to understand that I was poking fun at my own misconceptions in what I wrote about the invitation I had.  :(   But yes.  I think we’re all on speaking terms again !!)  and it’s true that these kinds of kerfuffles draw you closer together in the end if you let them.  I hate conflict more than anything, but I know it makes us stronger.  You’re such a dear.  I am sad that I missed meeting you. 

  • @lovinbloggin - Thanks Becky.  Your comment put some happy in my night.  I wouldn’t write this same post if I had it to do over again, you can be sure!! :)   How was anyone supposed to ‘get’ that my comments about how I felt about being invited to ffe were sarcasm at my own misconceptions?  Thanks for seeing beyond that.  I’m really glad your girls have this way of connecting.  And I love the diversity of people you invite.  And really, unless you change to a come one-come all conference, ffe will probably always get accusations for being exclusive.  And a conference style thing is so not what you are after, right? 

     I think I am back on good terms with Aug and Lisa, so that’s what matters to me.  I hate conflict.  Love you.

  • YOU are amazing! Once upon a time, I was the girl in the corner. My life changed for the better when I decided to get out, move around, and go back in to see who was there. You’re right, too, about that some corner people are perfectly fine with being there.  I love how you open up your heart and so beautifully express yourself! Some day, I’d love to meet you. I’d love to meet alot of my xanga friends! I’ve met 4 so far. One of them was Cindy at down_onthefarm. WONDERFUL girl. I’ve also met Jenny Kessener, another wonderful girl, and her sister Mary Hurlbut (another wonderful one! And, Janet “slmret”, who felt like a big sister to me. After spending time with each one, it was so difficult to leave them! Well, I’ve rambled a bit, so better go. See, you’ve stirred me up, in a very good way!

  • I’ve never read any of your posts before, and I don’t know most of your friends, except Richgem.  I had to comment because I have often felt and thought as you do in this post.

  • thank you for being honest about your thoughts. when i read the title, i was wondering what direction you were going to go in. I love the idea of FFE. i love the people who go to FFE. i love the pictures and experiences that i read about when the FFE girls returned. and yet so much of what you said resonates with me…it wasn’t that i expected to be invited, it just seemed like such an exclusive thing, and i know its not. i know that its hard to know who to invite when your group of friends has exponentially increased, i know its hard when people have to travel from all over north america to one place and a space is needed to be found. it was jealousy pure and simple that resonated in my heart, because i’ve come to love many of these ladies and i longed to get to know them too. and in my heart i knew the truth of what i’ve said above, about the connections with different people, the amount of people and space…and yet i truly was so jealous that they got to meet each other and have those experiences. at the same time i had real joy in reading the experiences that people had, especially people like April who was attending her first time and had a glorious time getting ot know some people that she’d connected with. Thank you for addressing this. and thank you to the two ladies who weren’t afraid to speak the truth in turn about their involvement in FFE and what it takes to get it together and the challenges that are always being faced putting something like this together.

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